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St. Thomas town hall budget meeting

How weird was last night’s town hall budget meeting at St. Thomas Aquinas? How about bizarre? Surreal? Kafkaesque?

How else to explain a meeting that saw:

• Mayor Park Cities not only attended, but praised M Streets councilwoman Angela Hunt for her service on the city council. Which, frankly, I expected to happen about as much as the mayor and I meeting at Louie’s for a cold one.

• Lakewood councilman Sheffie “Taxes are too high” Kadane said he would support a property tax increase if that’s what his constituents wanted. Though, in the next breath, he explained why a tax hike wasn’t a good idea.

• Assistant city manager A.C. Gonzalez explain that the cash-strapped city needs to borrow money to increase the capital budget by 10 percent as an economic stimulus.

But the most amazing thing? I saw the beginning of a tax revolt — from taxpayers who want to pay more taxes to restore proposed service cuts, particularly for parks and rec centers. More, after the jump: The audience in the St. Thomas gym was not just standing room only; it overflowed into the temporary hallway leading to the gym. They were not happy, and though they were mostly polite, many of those who asked questions or made comments made it clear that this budget — with its draconian cuts — was unacceptable.

Which is why Leppert was there. He has invested tremendous political capital in city manager’s Mary Suhm’s no tax increase budget, and yet the normally subservient council has apparently mustered five votes to raise property taxes. All they need is three more, and that’s not the impossibility that it seemed just a month ago. When Kadane, as loyal a supporter as Leppert has, says he’d vote for a tax increase, things have changed.

And the mayor took every opportunity to remind the audience that raising taxes was a bad idea. He said it was the wrong thing to do in a recession and would hurt working families, which was a commendable thing to say — even if it wasn’t exactly true. People who own property pay property taxes, and fewer than half of the families in Dallas own homes. In fact, we have one of the lowest home ownership rates in the country, so landlords would mostly feel the property tax sting.

Leppert’s other argument? That raising taxes wouldn’t work because we could only restore some of the cuts, and that those whose programs weren’t restored would be unhappy. “If we raise taxes,” he said, “how do we decide how to spend it?” I don’t pretend to understand this line of reasoning, since it’s his job to make those decisions, but he seemed convinced by it.

Leppert also said something that was so over the top that even the woman sitting in front of me was taken aback. And she hardly guffawed at all during the presentation. Apparently, before Leppert became mayor, no one in Dallas cared about growth and luring new business to the city. Honest. It’s in my notes, in a rambling response to a question from the audience about cuts to arts and cultural programs. This is an odd thing to say regardless, and especially odd since Leppert has lived elsewhere most of his adult life. How does he know this? I doubt that former mayors Laura Miller and Ron Kirk would agree with him.

Which brings us back to the possibility of a tax increase. Leppert said he was working to get private money to fund some of the park and rec center cuts, but the audience wasn’t appeased. There was loud applause to restore the library and arts cuts, but the loudest applause was to save the park system. Kadane said that was his top priority, and he was surprisingly passionate about it. If we get a tax hike, that’s where the money will go.

Finally, a word about the good sense and clear thinking that I saw last night. When you’ve done this as long as I have, you get cynical — not just about politicians, but about voters. And, usually, in a forum like this, the audience is mostly cranks, special interests and people who want to get out of the house. But last night’s audience wasn’t like that. It was concerned and intelligent, and it asked the right questions. What’s the point of building new libraries and arts facilities, said one, if we don’t have the money to operate them? Asked another woman: Why should we spend money on an improved water conservation plan if we don’t enforce the ordinance we have now?

Even a curmudgeon like me had to smile — especially when the politicians didn’t have an answer to those questions.

Posted by: on August 13th, 2010 in All Blog Posts, City Hall
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  • Gay Hopkins

    Thank you, Mr. Siegel, for this posting. Many times, I have wondered why I go to these meetings, then I answer my own question. I buy myself witching rights. Here are some withcings: Whose meetings are these supposed to be? If they are the council members’ why don’t the council members dispense with the boring power point presentations? why don’t they go immediately to the question and answer time? this is called a town hall meeting; officials should be hearing from citizens, not the other way around. The assistant city manager only goes over what the citizen already has in hand–time and resources wasted. The water conservation question was mine. It was the proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back. This witching has caused me to retrieve my “straw;” I’ll be at the budget town hall meeting a year from now. Gay Hopkins

  • Dallasm

    I went to the meeting last night, and thought it must have been the most pro-tax group of people to ever assemble in Dallas.

    One thing that wasn’t said (though slightly alluded to) was that most of the people in that room are over 65 and won’t be paying any increase in property taxes at all. Their tax rate is locked in. Which is probably a good thing and I’m not for changing that.

    That said, I kind of agree with the mayor -though I agree that the comment about the “decade where Dallas didn’t care to attract new people” was odd. But raising taxes is an easy fix. City needs more revenue, raise taxes. Done. It’s a lot harder to tighten the belt. Afterwards I talked to the accountant guy (didn’t catch his name) and suggested that he consider raising the water rate more than he is doing. Water is not priced right in this country. I used 4000 gallons of water last month and paid $11 for it. That’s too low. It should be at least double that. We have signs all over Dallas promoting saving water, but there is no financial reason to do so. As long as we are practically giving water away for free, people will continue to waste it. I suggested to him that we raise the water rate for the explicit purpose of raising money to pay for the levee reconstruction. He said they couldn’t be that specific about where the money goes. Oh well, I tried.

  • Lee Gibson

    Good point about the property tax breakdown between landlords and individual homeowners, a point that can’t be emphasized too much. That’s who Boss Leppert is really trying to protect. Along with his own future in Republican primaries, of course.

    See yesterday’s DMN editorial opposing a tax increase and today’s front page, above the fold story claiming that the worst of the sales tax woes are over. So Belo’s pitching in for their boy Tom. Betting on the come, indeed.

  • Jeff Siegel

    One of the things that I like about the editorial board at the DMN opinionating about how Dallas should be run is that so many of them don’t live here. Drive in from the suburbs, tell us what to do, and drive back. Nice work if you can get it.

  • Ann Saucer

    Great article. I was at the meeting and there was one idea expressed that I’ve heard before, and that is that if people want to fund something, then the rich people can write checks instead of tax funding. The problem is that that has happened with the libraries — the Friends of the DPL has given over 33 million since its inception. AT&T, Atmos Energy and the Nashers are very generous contributors and individuals volunteer their time. But staff must conduct programming. And private money went into the Central Library that will be mostly closed if this budget goes through — floors 3-8 will be closed all but 26 hours a week, compared to two years ago when the entire building was open 68 hours a week. So people who donated generously to renovate these floors are now seeing the City failing to uphold its part of the bargain. The Friends is working hard — we have a website at http://www.saveourdallaslibraries.org — but the City has to staff the libraries and keep the doors open. The City owns the libraries and needs to maintain and operate them.

  • Lee Gibson

    In a Saturday DMN column, editorial writer Mike Hashimoto makes several comparisons between Dallas and some of its suburbs to conclude that Dallas taxes are already too high and should not be raised. At the end of the column, he writes,”these are some of the questions [the ones he poses] we need to ask before deciding whether to raise taxes.” But, as his column casually observes, “I live in Flower Mound.” So I’ve got a question, too: Just who is this “we” to whome he refers?

  • colinnwn

    I agree that water is priced too low. Every residence should get a minimum allotment at a cheap price (say 2000 gallons), but after that (and for all commercial users), the price of water should be three or four times what it is now.

    Regarding city services and taxes, I agree that the immediate fix should be a temporary (say 2 year) automatically expiring tax rate increase that allows the city to keep open almost all of the city services it is thinking of closing.

    Having libraries, parks, and pools, that all citizens paid taxes to build, and some citizens gave private donations for, to close or reduced to very unfavorable hours is simply unacceptable. All of us (especially the less financially fortunate among us) depend on those service. If the city is going to close temporarily or drastically reduce hours at city facilities, they should be required to demolish the structure and return it to greenspace, or deed the property to a non-profit group.

    The 2 year grace period of increased taxes should be used for the city to figure out which services aren’t used enough and permanently close them in an organized way (rather than the current haphazard way). They should search for other pork in the budget, along with figuring out how to crate a budget that future declines in city revenues can be handled in a more graceful way.

  • Erica

    We city jobs,we have more people out of work,more people losing their homes,less taxes revenue for the city less city services, cut more jobs.What?
    Will anybody explain how cutting jobs will help our city.Sounds kinda downhill to me!

  • Mr. T

    It should be noted that my house was hit by an increase while the McManison next door had a value decrease of around 274 thousand dollars (a reduction that is 62 percent of my property value). Most all the houses in my block had a decrease that put them at or below their 2008 (pre housing bubble) values except mine. The reason was the apparent 2009 resale of 3 lots that have been scrapped on or before 2007. One was bankrupt builder. They are presently sporting for sale signs after their 2009 sale! The land values are based on real estate speculators bets and I get to pay for it in higher taxes due to the way the DCAD sets land values. A rate increase is icing on the tax cake!

    1) You don’t raise taxes in a recession. We have unemployment, bad housing (that will not get better soon), in plain words “people are hurting and afraid of loosing their jobs and houses and you don’t kick people when they are down by a tax hike”. While tax increase will hit homeowners those who rent should not feel that they will escape the effects-rents will increase as the tax burden is passed onto renters from their landlords.

    2) A tax rate increase will divert a household’s money from other spending that would benefit Dallas business and the resulting sales tax revenue. Purchases of durable goods or other spending that benefit business will be postponed or canceled there by passing the recessionary effects on through the local economy possibly resulting in other business failures as the economy struggles to regain footing

    3) What, if any, guarantee is there that the monies from a tax increase will go to libraries, rec centers, pools, streets, etc.? Nothing! a group of politicians and professional city administrators can’t live within the existing revenue base in good times and now in bad times.

    4) A tax increase in bad economic times will not go away in good economic times. It will be forgotten and become the new revenue base. And remember that they had a tax increase last year by taxing Atmos Energy’s pipe lines-that cost was passed on to gas customers in Dallas in their gas bills. And that was SPECIFICALLY FOR rec centers (and libraries?). This was councilman Ron Natinsky’s brain child that the council jumped on.

    5) The proposed operating budget (capital budget is an additional 822.2 million) is $1.93 BILLION (2.75 BILLION for both capital and operating) dollars for FY11! That is a big bunch of money! And those who want a tax increase are saying “its not enough”. When is enough? At what point can the citizens expect that the city will live within it’s means? Never-if you have a leak in a pool and you keep filling it with water (tax money) it kind of stays filled but the added water……

    6) After past budget cuts and infusions of tax monies the city has historically never shown any indication that it had learned from the spending budget process but has promptly gone off and squandered money. It seems to me a disconnect from the budget process and day to day operations. One of my favorite is in 2008 after a small budget shortfall the city spent ½ million on a giant TV to welcome visitors to city hall! The hiring of consultants to help the city convince itself that it knows what it is doing is troubling too in that it implies that those in power do not have a firm grasp of what is going on.

    It should also be noted that every time the council has addressed the budget cuts the next words out of their mouths are about pursuing questionable fluff projects (toll roads, suspension bridges, shopping malls (Red Bird), decking Woodall Rogers, the opera and the arts district projects). It seems to me that libraries, rec centers, street repairs, pools etc are lowest on their (the city’s) priorities. In short I do not trust the city nor do I feel that due to their neglect in managing the city (over the past several difficult years) that a tax increase is warranted or deserved. They are using these services as a hostage much like we hear about extremists in the middle east.

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